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Silly humans!


Thanks Facebook member, another one of the hundreds of millions telling us about a God that probably doesn’t exist. If said God does exist, why would this person need to take time out of his clearly thrilling day to tell us themselves?

It’s because deep down, like many vocal theists, this person is thinking ‘Too many people are dissatisfied with Gods presence, I need to help him and speak on his behalf. Religion needs me to keep it alive.’ 

Is God really a god if his followers need to do his work? If they are under the impression that he needs help getting word out? 

The more you tell me about God, the more you remind me to not follow religion. 

Thank you.

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  1. First off, let me just say that I completely agree with your post title: humans are silly.
    Ridiculously silly, almost. I can see that in myself a lot .-. Oh, people.
    But also, random question: if someone gave you a free sports car, would you tell other people? Or if you somehow won a the lottery? Maybe if you received your own island you would tell people – even if the person doesn’t necessarily want their own island, or really care, either. If you’re an astronomer, would you tell people that you discovered that the solar system doesn’t actually revolve around the earth? That the earth may not be flat after all?

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      • Cool (: My point with this was just to say, maybe Christians – or theists in general – don’t think they need to defend God or religion. Maybe it’s something that’s so mind-boggling or so amazing that it just pops out and they can’t contain it.
        To put it professionally.

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      • But if I won the lottery, I would expect the lottery to contact me, not random people in the street. People often get spam emails telling them they’ve won the lottery, however these usually turn out to be fake and can be fraudulent. There is no surprise that people are wary when they have been told they have won the lottery, unless they are in contact with the lottery itself. If God isn’t willing to tell me, I’m not interested.

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      • I meant, what if the people themselves feel like they won the lottery, which is why they then tell everybody else about it?

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      • Which is fine, however I feel those people are falsely associating certain experiences with a God they want to believe in. Which is why people of all kinds of religions state their own personal God has contacted them, the experience must be pretty vague if we still have multiple belief systems. And with that, why is God making himself more apparent to some people more than others? I do appreciate your comments in this, it’s an interesting topic of conversation!

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      • Haha good; I was wondering if it was starting to feel too argumentative. But I really like that it makes us think more.
        I think that is true that there can be confirmation bias, and it’s also true that people do seem to get different messages. Which leads one to ask, if it’s all from one God, why is He sending mixed messages; or, if there is a God at all, how can you tell which one is the real God? From there I guess it’s taking a closer look at each belief system as objectively as possible, then deciding for yourself which one makes the most sense. Which isn’t to say you stop thinking there; then you keep developing your beliefs even if they don’t always agree completely with everyone else who shares the same religion or belief system – including Islam, Christianity, and even atheism.
        As for God making himself more apparent to some people more than others… maybe some people are just more receptive to him?

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      • ‘From there I guess it’s taking a closer look at each belief system as objectively as possible, then deciding for yourself which one makes the most sense.’
        But if that was to be the case, what is God doing up there for us to have to do all the detective work? If he is all knowing and powerful, we shouldn’t have to be the ones looking for him surely. The more we have to look, the less I feel he deserves praise. He could be up there, but I don’t think he is doing a very good job of proving it, you know?

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      • Hm yeah haha. Maybe sometimes we’re not looking hard enough?
        I mean, the thing is, I feel like “miracles” are pretty ordinary in comparison to the rest of the universe. If someone had the power to switch gravity around, that’d be pretty stinking incredible – but we take gravity itself for granted. If somebody could make a coat that repairs itself, gets rid of stains on its own, and lasts for a lifetime, who wouldn’t buy it? But that’s what our skin does, and we don’t really give it (and our entire bodies, really) enough credit.
        It’d be practically impossible for us to toss all the pieces of a small pocketwatch into a hurricane and expect all the pieces to come together perfectly… but we say the entire universe came about that way somehow. Even after trillions upon trillions of years, everything turned out pretty perfectly… in a sense.
        You’ve probably heard all this before, but I just find it kind of mind-boggling haha.

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      • I wouldn’t say pretty perfectly, I mean it’s taken a lot of human history to get to an age in which infant mortality is pretty low, and that is only in developed/developing nations. The world is constantly bombarded with natural disasters and we can only live on some of the earth, some of the time. Our skin, despite being pretty damn remarkable and waterproof, can develop skin cancer and all kinds of nasty infections and diseases. In fact science has put a lot of effort into keeping us alive as long as possible, such as creating tooth paste so our teeth don’t rot as fast as they naturally would, and we get vaccinations to keep common diseases at bay.

        If the world was perfect, wouldn’t we be living to be 1000 years old? 10,000? If I was to be excepting perfection, wouldn’t we be immortal? Instead we barely live long enough to see our grandkids grow up, which isn’t long at all.

        I admit our bodies and the universe is pretty damn remarkable, and I try to appreciate that as much as possible. But if we are to believe it must be the work of a higher being, we have to question why the bad stuff happens. The babies that die in the womb, the sufferers of mental illness, paralysis, HIV, sudden death syndrome… If we were created by a superior being, why are we so flawed?

        I wouldn’t expect a broken watch to come come out of a hurricane in perfect working order, however I don’t think the world works like that, even though it has had hundreds of millions of years to make ever so slight changes along the way. But surely a God just being there that is capable of such ‘miracles’ would be as improbable as a watch being built by a hurricane?

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      • No, that’s entirely true; the world is very, very, very far from perfect. Awful choice of words on my part :b I probably should’ve said instead that the universe, despite having been blasted into being by some freak accident, still managed to work out the tiny details to support life – the distance of Earth from the sun, the convenient balance of gases in earth’s atmosphere that makes human life sustainable, the incredible function of tiny things in the body like neurons, the way even physics works out to make sure we don’t spontaneously implode. Which was what I was trying to say when the world turned out pretty “perfectly” – perfectly enough to somehow balance the fragile life that this planet teems with.
        Your last question is really interesting… I never thought of it that way before. Like, what is the likelihood of a God like that existing? I mean, I don’t usually think of anyone like that haha… it’s just that He exists or He doesn’t, right? One way that someone put it was to think of God like the writer of a story, and to think of us as the characters in that story. The characters only ever know the life the author gives them; they would have no possible way of knowing the author existed unless that was just how the writer made the story. (Which would be a brilliant idea, really; some writer should try that some time haha.) And which isn’t to say that I believe God controls every single thought, action, etc. that we have, but I just mean it in the sense that there’s the creator and the created, and that the created only knows the creator if the maker intentionally reveals it to them. Which in this case I feel like is through the entire universe.
        …if that makes sense in relation to your question…

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      • It does make sense, but wouldn’t it be less biased to consider the probability of both a universe created by the Big Bang and a universe created by a God that was simply always there? To leave God out of it and disregard his improbability is unfair on the scientific viewpoint, in my opinion. Both are just as baffling as each other, however if God exists that opens the door to so many more baffling questions!

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      • Yeah, when someone’s trying to figure out what they believe, they should always try to look at both sides and weigh the “pros” and “cons,” or the logical vs. illogical. And obviously people come up with different conclusions after the presentation of the evidence… because in the end, it really just comes down to what YOU believe. No one can force you into anything; they can only show you their (always biased) evidence and then leave it up to you. The biased “evidence” I’ve been sharing is just my belief that there’s clearer evidence for a God who created the universe rather than everything being brought about by the Big Bang – but again, it’s biased, and no argument is without flaws.
        …this conversation has come a long way from the first comment haha.

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      • It has! And it’s refreshing to have a conversation that isn’t heated haha, so thank you for that. May I ask what makes you feel there is clear evidence for a God over a scientific explanation as you stated in the latter part of your last comment?

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      • I know!! This conversation has been really great. Thank you too, haha.
        Probably one of the bigger things for my belief in a Creator rather than chance is kind of what we’ve been talking about… just the universe and how intricate everything can be, and how carefully it’s balanced out. Mind if I ask in turn what makes you prefer the scientific explanation?

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      • Of course you can! I follow various scientific viewpoints because for many things that were once a hypothesis, have turned into theories. For example, the Big Bang and Evolution can be observed, still today, so it cannot be ignored unless someone has a reason or desire to do so, and I feel religion does this quite regularly. There are infections and viruses that are constantly evolving and becoming immune to antibiotics, which may cause quite a serious problem as many of our medicines are no longer going to work. I’m also relieved to know that in a Godless universe, what is out to kill us isn’t doing so because of the desire from a God. A tornado isn’t intentionally wanting us to suffer. If God made this universe, is it because he is imperfect as there is so much imperfection, or is it because he intentionally created such events? Regardless, this turns me away from any of our religious books.
        Also, the fact that an all powerful, all knowing God has to resort to an ancient book to give us all the answers is baffling. We have intelligent scientists, philosophers, experts in all fields that can describe our universe in much more detail and clarity than God ever has. Which really puts God down in my estimations.

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      • Ah… yeah, that’s true that things do adapt to survive (unfortunately meaning we don’t get to survive sometimes .-.). To me that feels more like microevolution than macro, but anyway :b I get what you mean about the careless/malicious God. Honestly it can be confusing to theists sometimes, too. Maybe we’re all confused haha.
        Thanks for sharing your beliefs and hearing mine out. This was a really cool and interesting conversation, and it was level-headed and respecting rather than being full of pointing fingers and accusing the other of being wrong hahaha. You seem like a cool person. I’m really glad I started following your blog x)

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  2. Which is fine, however I feel those people are falsely associating certain experiences with a God they want to believe in. Which is why people of all kinds of religions state their own personal God has contacted them, the experience must be pretty vague if we still have multiple belief systems. And with that, why is God making himself more apparent to some people more than others? I do appreciate your comments in this, it’s an interesting topic of conversation!

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  3. To me, the question of the origin of the universe is an open one. Attributing it to a creator can be seen as a “God of the gaps” argument, but at least it seems possible. The more interesting point, to me, is why is the creator given a gender? If there is an sentient being that created the universe and does not need to reproduce sexually, why is it a “he”? The Jews did a good job of removing most signs of the Ugaritic pantheon from the Torah (the old testament), so that Yahweh/El is seen as the only all powerful god, and other supernatural beings are mere drones (the angels, AKA Malakim) or demonic beings (e.g. Baal). The Jewish prophets and more especially the Christians in the new testament reconceived Yahweh as an unseeable being beyond human comprehension, but God still remained explicitly male. I understand why people living 2000 years ago would anthropomorphize such a being, but continuing to do so today, to me, weakens any argument for the existence of a creator.

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    • I guess many would assume God is a male considering how religion tends to favour males, despite how religious females tend to be. From that perspective, it would make sense!!

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