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Is God limited to purely human abilities, just on a larger scale?

If God can create earth and it’s life out of nothing, why can’t he rid the world of corruption in a similar fashion? Take the case of Noah, as this event has been talked about in my blog recently. 

If he wanted to wipe out the evil population and start over, drowning is a very immoral way to do so. We put dogs down in a much more humane way. Imagine those suffering from terminal illness opting for euthanasia being drowned. We are more civilised, why can’t God be the same? 

Maybe he took pleasure out of a more painful death. Again, something I don’t agree with. The millions of men, women and children that apparantly perished in excruciating pain because of the immoral decisions of others. Not to mention the countless number of animals.

Is God unable to start over in a much more civilised manner? Or does your God enjoy watching a much more traumatic process unfold?

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  1. He started out by creating from His fullness, not out of nothing. He did so out of love. He is slow to anger.

    It is man, adamant about being rebellious, killing prophets sent to call for repentance. Eventually, if He then washes our bullshit off the face of this earth, it is not out of cruelty. He just needed to format the hard drive to remove Windows and its malware. He started over by installing Linux.

    Man found a way to corrupt even that. So He inflicted cruelty upon Himself instead of drowning gnats, cats and rats. No, He took our crap upon Himself.

    But look at the man-made mess around us. Tell me then, how many times should He try until we get it right? God is not the problem. We are.

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  2. R.E. When God eliminated the population, as in the flood, it was a situation of sinful rebellion throughout the population. This would be why Noah was called upon to warn the people many times, prior to the flood. The people had the choice to repent of their wickedness. So it is throughout recorded history. Civilizations of people becoming wicked; God warning them to repent, and so on.
    You’ve probably heard the story of Jonah. He was called upon by God to warn the people of Nineveh. Jonah hated the people of Nineveh so he didn’t want to warn them–he wanted to see them destroyed. When he tried to flee from God’s command by hopping a ship going in the opposite direction, he found himself in big trouble–with God. After three days of captivity he repented and did as commanded–by warning the people of Nineveh. Surprisingly they repented and God withheld His Judgment.
    As for drowning, in reality it’s not so horrible as you think–at least not according to people who have near death by drowning. But really, that shouldn’t be a point of argument.
    Instead the point is that God has shown, many times over, that he is merciful. But humanity has shown over and again that we are prideful, prone to wickedness, and willful.
    Upon having a clearer understanding of what God is should compel us to understand both our need for His grace as well as our nothingness by comparison. But, because of sin, our pride compels us to do just the opposite.
    And thus it is we are inclined to demand that Gods ways be our ways. The more I come to recognize the great divide between what I am and what God is, the more I find I am truly thankful for His Grace and Mercy. His ways are NOT my ways, and I can’t begin to fully understand Him. God is not, unlike a song once tried to suggest, one of us. We are nothing by comparison.
    So, instead I am thankful from the depths of my soul that He loves us, His creation, as he does, and that I am able to feel that love–because I actually do.

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    • In the story of Jonah, he wasn’t just in captivity but swallowed by a large fish or whale and lived in its stomach for three days.

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      • Yes, understood, but if I were in the belly of anything, I’d know I was in captivity. (hence my choice of wording) And if I lived to tell about it, I’d know I was kept alive by a source of power much greater than any human being; a true miracle.

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      • “Why would you be so sure that it would be a miracle?”. I think it goes without saying. But since you posed the question, I’ll state the obvious–no one could survive in the belly of anything living, due to many factors of which includes swimming in a belly of stomach acid. So either the story of Jonah is a load of B.S. or there was divine intervention by a source far greater than any human being–which clearly would have to be the creator of all things as only the creator of all things would have the knowledge and power to control elements over which we humans have extremely limited knowledge of and no control over. Can’t speak for you, but I’ve never managed to walk on water.

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      • I agree, I doubt I could survive in the stomach of a whale, and neither of us can walk on water.
        The worrying thing for me is this. We know that this cannot be done, however a story thousands of years ago claims it did and you feel it’s more logical to assume it must have happened.
        If someone told me a plane had crashed, the shattered frame of the plane breaking into a million pieces that then re-assembled perfectly allowing it to continue it’s flight, would it be more logical to assume this must have happened? Isn’t it so much more logical to assume it is just B.S? I always wonder why all the biggest miracles happened at a time when we were much more gullible and there was no way to capture the moment.

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      • I agree some of the stories of the Old Testament, because of the supernatural elements of them, defy all logic. I used to figure they must have been allegorical stories passed down for teaching purposes, but there are those who insist otherwise, so now I’m not so sure.
        To look at life from my perspective, I have to limit it because of what I know. So I’ve started to allow for the possibility there is something far superior to me, which I cannot see with my natural eyes, thus opening up possibilities beyond logic.
        In the meantime I don’t spend much time thinking on the stories of the Old Testament. What is essential to me is whether or not Yeshua, (Jesus) is the Messiah. Secular historical records establish that he lived. Learned people; people who are able to understand the deeper meanings of the Bible, establish how the Old Testament foretells of the coming of the Messiah, and the New Testament establishes that the crucified Jesus, rose again to life and ascended into Heaven after being seen, touched, and recognized as having risen from the dead.
        And then there are the those who have done further study in our time period who verify the history that establishes the Divinity of the man, Jesus of Nazareth.
        I’ve come upon someone who I find most interesting. The man is so intelligent I have a hard time grasping some of what he teaches, as his thinking is so deep compared to my comprehensive abilities. But I find him fascinating to listen to. Here’s a link to a recent video of him:

        There are many others to choose from as well.
        I have a feeling you might find him worth listening to.

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      • Why do you have to put all the hard work into trying to understand a man that is the son of an all powerful God? Do you believe God could show himself to you if he desired?

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      • You say: “Do you believe God could show himself to you if he desired?”
        The answer is that God did. The following explains it. I recommend to read the book of John in the New Testament of the Bible, for more clarity and to gain a better understanding.

        https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14:8-9

        8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and dost thou not know me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; how sayest thou, Show us the Father?

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      • not to my recollection. And I only phrase it that way as I cannot say what I saw or experienced when I was 2 1/2 years old and flew out of a fast moving vehicle and bounced down the pacific coast highway then rolled to the edge of the cliff. Obviously I survived, despite the likelihood I should not have. My memories of the incident and my time in the hospital are sketchy at best. Aside from that, no, I’m not aware of seeing Yeshua face to face in the flesh. I’m not so sure I’d want to in this world. That said, there are many stories coming forward of those who are seeing and hearing him. In their case I see both the need and the purpose. In my life there is neither the need or the purpose. I’m much more comfortable with the prospect of waiting until it’s both the right time and the right place.
        I don’t believe everything I hear as I believe there are those who lie for varied reasons. But I’ve heard stories that I do believe–I can’t say just why; it’s an internal sense. There are many who give up their life in refusing to deny Yeshua (Jesus). If it was nothing more than a pipe dream, they’d have to be insane to refuse to deny Him–they know on a level we may never know in this life.

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      • I’m glad to know you survived, but you don’t feel there’s a need for him to prove himself to you? To confirm it once and for all without question? To silence any critic or skeptics? I feel from a theist perspective it should definitely be desired, and I can’t help to feel that a theist saying they do to mind God not showing himself means you feel better about the fact he refuses to.

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      • When we stand out of doors and we feel a breeze across our skin we know we are feeling wind. Yet, we have never seen the wind; we simply feel it and we see the effects of it.
        When we feel joy or sorrow or any other emotion we cannot prove or disprove it’s reality? If I tell you I feel an emotion, you have to take my word for it, or simply disbelieve I am feeling what I claim to be feeling. It cannot be proven–but, to me, the one feeling it, this does not make it any less real.
        Spiritual things are called, I believe, “spiritual” because, like emotions, they are things that are experienced on a level that is different than things physical. In our mortal realm some things cannot be proven because of the limitations that come with being mortal.
        However, for the person who has experienced something deeply spiritual, trying to disprove it by way of justification of things physical is not going to disprove what the person has come to know on a spiritual level.
        I have had some select experiences that, were I to share them, others could argue or attempt to justify via some means more commonly accepted in the mortal realm. But doing so would not alter what I know I have experienced. To me these personal experiences prove of an existence beyond what our mortal eyes can see.
        In these and other ways, God has made His presence,His reality, and His love, evident to me.
        This is why someone can throw logical arguments at me yet I remain in confidence that God is real and that one day I will be able to be in His presence.
        I believe these things have been availed to me because my heart desires to know God, so I seek Him; I’ve opened the door of my heart to Him.
        When someone who truly believes in God tells you similar things, it is not a cop-out. If they have literally felt God in their heart; in their soul, they know what they know. (I’m not talking about people who claim to be Christian but you can see by their life they really aren’t).
        However, those who know God and have an assurance of His reality cannot give it to you and they cannot prove it to you. Knowing God is a very personal thing. You can only find God if you actually genuinely desire to find Him. He is literally right there. If you were not limited to mortal eyes, you would be able to see Him. But we are limited to mortal eyes–for which, in reality, I am truly thankful. Because if we were not there is also the dark side, evil, and the God of evil, Satan, that we would see as well. And experiencing that would likely scare us to death–literally.
        So, I am, honestly, content, for now, to feel God’s presence in my soul, and see evidence of His love, and protection, and blessing at work in my life.

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      • This argument may convince you that God exists but we can’t see him. But this is why I am confident being an atheist is the right decision. Why does God remain in a realm that we cannot see? Why does he remain invisible to us?
        It seems like poor decision making to me. If I was God and made it that hard for my creations to experience or see me, I would not be surprised if less and less people believed in me.

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  3. Also, to what might inevitably be a question:” why destroy a civilization to begin with”, my understanding is that in each circumstance where that has taken place it is because of the following: when a civilization of adults becomes so corrupt there are virtually no righteous people left, then the whole society has no chance of redemption because the children learn from the adults—thus from generation to generation there would be nothing but sinful existence as who would there be to teach the children anything different. In reality such a society would likely kill themselves off eventually anyhow, but a whole lot of innocent children would probably suffer a whole lot of needless, horrific, abuses prior to that end. I think it safe to suggest it not hard to imagine what our world would be like if every adult living now were caught up in living what we recognize as being truly evil.
    If anyone knows of another reason, feel free to enlighten me.

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      • I don’t believe there were any who were killed that did not contribute to any evil doing, with the exception of those who choose to go on the Ark. It took Noah 100 years to build the ark and during that time he also preached to the people warning them of their wrong doing. The people had ample time to choose differently-instead they mocked Noah. For more detail here’s a link: http://www.gotquestions.org/days-of-Noah.html

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      • So children, they were also wrong? Are they capable of acknowledging the warning of a ship builder and making the decision to get on board?
        I’m sorry but I cannot, as an adult, take this story seriously at all.

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  4. I find this youtube to be very interesting. I think the question posed and answered at around 7 minutes quite thought provoking as the example used, despite it being from our time period, is likely one of many of the possible horrors children of that day faced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7bPCYizcFM
    When I learn of some of the many horrific abuses done to children my imagination allows me to think of the horrible possibilities the children, in the days of Noah were exposed. I think to be removed from an environment of horrific abuse, even if the means is by death, to be placed in the realm of a loving God where one is free from pain, sorrow and fear is nothing but a blessing.

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